Although this news first surfaced late on Friday, we think it is a major move by General Motors, and even after the news has been repeated by countless different auto blogs over the weekend, it is still worth discussing. .

has a problem? Of course, the current degree of disruption in the global supply chain. Since the only potato chips in Detroit were obviously salt and vinegar, the car company was forced to make some difficult decisions-but heated seats were a very significant change.

So far, there are relatively few types of features that have disappeared from new cars due to global chip shortages-or ironically, these features were not that popular at first (we are looking at you, on the GM 5.3L V8 engine Annoying start/stop). By insisting on using The General, customers have seen that their dial temperature display disappears, wireless charging does not work properly, and the aforementioned start/stop system is no longer an obstacle to the commuting experience. Some of these dissatisfactions correspond to small credits at the suggested retail price of the vehicle, such as $50 due to lack of start/stop.

But facing heated seats is a complete "unpopular game." It's one thing to remove the convenient digital temperature reading in the center of the HVAC dial on vehicles such as Silverado and Sierra. Banning the inclusion of heated seats is another matter. According to rumors, this feature is regarded by consumers as a transaction-breaking feature. It is not popular in some corners of the country that bread heaters are not installed on the equipment while driving until 5:30 in the morning for hockey practice.

This is a list of affected vehicles, compiled by professionals from Detroit News.

That is, well, a lot of vehicles-including some of their bestsellers. Of course, this raises a question: Does General Motors have the foresight to transport these vehicles to markets where heated seats are not so-called deal breakers? Compared with trucks sold in Nebraska, if the trucks at the Phoenix dealership do not have heated seats, it may not be a big problem. However, given the lack of available products, it is safe to assume that dealers across the country will only take what they can get-whether they have heated seats or not.

In addition, you can bet that General Motors did not pull the actual buttons for this function from the dashboard-these switches are so integrated that they cannot be dragged off the affected vehicle when the affected vehicle goes offline. This is just (and understandably) too much work. The same is true for the heated steering wheel. This is the list of rigs, also from Detroit News.

This is another important list of popular vehicles. Like a heated seat switch, GM is unlikely to replace a steering wheel that does not have a button to control its heating function. This allows us to draw an interesting observation, which will definitely cause headaches for used car managers in three to five years: just because the vehicle has a control device for a specific function does not mean that it is actually equipped. The frustration of complaining to angry customers returning at the end of the winter that their heated seats did not work, or overworked technology trying to diagnose non-existent problems. Yes, all these vehicles will record these omissions in the depths of their Monroney and GM computer systems. Your author has worked at a dealership for enough years, and he knows that when selling a 4-year-old Trailblazer in a second-hand garage, it is unlikely that either of these two tools will be deployed.

Nonetheless, in the current climate, you can bet that many sales teams will be happy to see the production of cars-with or without heated seats.

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Need heated seats; 1 in the north. 2 If you are north of 50, you are everywhere. 3 Everywhere, if you overdo it on the golf course.

I will add one...a woman once sat in a car seat.

We are in Florida...the pagans in my family occasionally ignite them, and they are not more than 50 years old or golfers!

This is a ridiculous delete function. The way to GM.

What do you want them to do instead of making cars? The article believes that this is due to a shortage of chips. No chip means that the listed models do not have heated seats.

When I buy a new car, there is always a feature that I like, and heated seats are one of them. It doesn't matter that I don't live in the Great North, but it's a nice luxury while I wait for the heater to build up temperature.

Why can't a traditional car have a preheating electric heater, I will never understand. Electric cars have heat.

The lack of heated seats is a big problem for me. Oops, I missed the tundra because it doesn't have a heated steering wheel, which is more of a deal breaker to me.

By the way, a beautiful set of sheepskin seat covers will work wonders in both heat and cold. I installed them on my last Sierra 1500 Denali and never used the heating/cooling seat function.

PS I live in a 4-season area with hot summers and cold winters.

Wow, this is really bad news-and it will be a headache next. Imagine driving a $60,000 SUV with cold seats and steering wheel; I would go shopping elsewhere.

These will be called "Covid Era" cars instead of the "Malaise Era" cars of yesteryear.

I am very happy to see the infinite wisdom of GM. They prioritize heated seats in the most popular winter models such as Corvette and Camaro...

Wait, so not only did you not get your function, you also got a button to remind you what you should have? Ha ha ha ha

Unless General Motors can assure buyers that the heated seat function can be retrofitted in the future, I think it will cost a lot of sales. I live in Los Angeles, and when I bought the first car with heated seats (circa 1990), I thought it was foolish to have such a thing in our climate. Now, if there is no bread heater, I would not have a leather seat.

If you do not plan to install seat heaters, it is best to wrap these seats with cloth.

Not in the market now (if I am, GM has little interest in me) but if I am, this is a complete deal breaker.

Heated seats are necessary in the northeast, as is the heated steering wheel. Once you have them, you will never, never go back.

Oops, my 2002 Infiniti has heated front and rear seats and heated steering wheel. Since I have that car, I will never buy anything I am missing.

I know there is a shortage of chips, but almost all of them are on GM...at least you should not remove them from the upper half of the range.

Can you imagine how many of these cars will be sold to unsuspecting Janice or Allen because their car has heated seats and because it has buttons? Oh, and you know that some lazy dealers will still tell people that they have heated seats, fully aware that this is a button-only function.

I can't imagine that at least they won't remove the function icon from the dead button.

Don't worry-it will wear out like the "Start" printing on the start button of my C7...

They used to use closed plates to replace missing buttons. They can do it again. It's ridiculous that the author promises to connect the button to anything... but it makes people feel uneasy and involved, which is the goal now.

If the button always exists, then the function it wants to support should also exist. I can almost understand the transportation and sales of cars without this function, but the contract states "We owe you this when the parts are available." Maybe offer discounts for inconvenience. Just work with the person who extends the warranty period to determine the customers who owe the money.

A few years ago, I bought a car with a broken windshield. In the sales contract, the dealer clearly stated that they owed me a windshield. This is a used car, I admit that there are differences, but rational customers will usually understand.

Just guessing here, but this may cover about 1 million cars.

Modifying them with controls sounds great, but once GM gets the parts, it must treat them as a major voluntary recall. If they attribute the deletion option to people during the sale, then GM will bear the full cost in the future, let alone labor.

This is very bad for General Motors, dealers and customers.

In my opinion, there will be a simple solution for something as simple as heated seats that do not require some high-tech ICs.

If GM engineers can come up with a simple solution, it is obviously too difficult.

Almost everything is controlled by BCM...To be fair, it is not feasible without a redesign. This will not happen.

Bad design, "F" grade. The seat heating element can easily operate independently on a separate circuit, as has been done on every GM car for years.

I called BS on GM. It's time to stop blaming the chip shortage on dissatisfaction, especially when the human body computer is clearly fully capable of running the front seat heater. I also haven't seen any mention of compensating buyers for removing this feature. It's just a vague promise. Maybe they will put them in at a later date.

Back to the terrible dark age when CANBUS saved us, 2 or 3 wires will be connected from the switch to the relay and from there to the heating element. Just like we don't need CANBUS to adjust the fan speed.

I think passengers should also have heated steering wheels

I said it before and I will say it again: I will laugh at anyone who says they want a heated steering wheel-until I have one. I can live without heated seats, and frankly, don't hype, as Urlik said, non-heated seats should be cloth. So I would be fine without that. But my goodness is a heated steering wheel to change the rules of the game. I usually feel helpless in the cold and hardly feel the heated seat, but I usually take off my gloves because the heated steering wheel does a better job of keeping my hands warm. I will definitely miss it this winter.

If you are buying a vehicle with a top decoration, they'd better be able to modify these things in the future without having to disassemble the interior to install it!

Oh my goodness, this is too easy. Want to sell a 100K sports car without heated seats? Big reminder: It's snowing in Germany, and high-end convertibles are in desperate need. "World Standard"? The Sub-30K Kias has heated seats. Professional level? Well, if you wear gloves and Carharts; you are harsh with people who want to warm up the seats and steering wheel, and sneer.

At the same time, returning to RENCEN, they were laughing in a hidden and highly secure VP lounge. Vegas! Quote! Cimaron! cobalt! They keep coming back. A VP raised his index finger for a circle, and another circle for everyone! Delete the option, it's okay! Making a new model like Blazer is a mockery of the original model, it doesn't matter. King Konkrete, who made a Corvette Joplin whose cost is as high as Porsche and Roscoe Jones, MO would boast that he finally paid cash for "Vette".

They are immune! Claim a vice president. A vice president was troubled by bursts of laughter; "Oh, they are not immune; they think the third-ranked car in its class is a good deal because it is a General Motors product! Another vice president chuckled and wiped it away. The tears in the corners of the eyes said: "We have had product problems for decades, I told you for decades; refuse to spend 27 cents to buy headliner glue? Oh, our loyal customers will explain clearly"

Until then, drinking after get off work really starts. Another vice president happily said, “When they sit in one of our cars and see a line that is obviously not in line; they don’t care. In their opinion, the committee’s vehicle design is cheaper in the long run. Value.

Then a man stood up, he was a certified public accountant and a runner, his stomach had not swelled to an oversized periphery. Ladies and gentlemen, I have too many Manhattan people who cannot speak in iambic pentameter. This is the most important thing: gain market share and cut costs; if we do, we don’t care. Do we have to be the best, the medium, or even give two cares? As long as the price of our stock rises, it doesn't matter.

Oh, human! What did people do before heating the seats? !

Did the Jamestown settlers have heated seats in the winter of 1609 to 1610?

Could von Steuben flip a switch in the winter of 1777-1778 to keep his buns warm?

Did we hear in December 44 that the Seventh Army was eager to heat the steering wheel?

The car is great. The car manufacturer is great. The dealer is great. Customers are babies who love to complain.

Breaking news... GM hired Howie Long to mock competitors with heated seats and steering wheels.

Do not. My wife would tell me to bring back the car without heated seats.

This also eliminates any possibility of me accepting the new Bolt trade agreement to replace the existing Bolt battery replacement, which I heard is provided.

Seriously-GM had better stop producing cars like Malibu and use all these chips in profitable cars. GMC Delano without seat or wheel heating? Sounds like a lot of lost sales!

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